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  • 1.  Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-10-2023 16:26
    Dear Thermal Spray Community,

    I am sure that many of you have already experienced a problem with static electricity being generated by a polymer powder feed hose. When one disconnects the hose and empties the powder feeder, one receives an electrical shock (static). Typically by earthing the powder feed hose by wrapping it in a copper wire around part of the tube and attaching the said wire to a big metallic component will solve the problem. 

    But do you know if there are other approaches to address this issue?

    Cheers!

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    Rogerio Lima, PhD
    Senior Research Officer
    National Research Council of Canada
    President of Thermal Spray Society (TSS)

    e-mail: rogerio.lima@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
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  • 2.  RE: Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-11-2023 07:21
    Can a additive to the polymer hose reduce static?  Or a thin coating inside it?

    Best regards,

    Bob Miller
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  • 3.  RE: Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-11-2023 07:40
    Hello Rogerio, 

    I've seen this static issue give big electric shocks (very uncomfortable) and discharges even to the point of melting the powder hose itself! 

    So far what has been helpful with this is to use a Nylon or PTFE Anti-static hose. As Bob said, this has carbon black as an additive to allow the tubing to disperse the static electricity. You can supplement this with a metal (steel or copper) braided sheath that goes over the outside of the powder hose. This sheath should be earthed at the powder feeder end of the line. Any metal transitions in the powder hose should also be earthed to allow any static to dissipate. 
    Sometimes the powder hopper in the feed system isn't correctly earthed either so this should be checked.

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    Consultant
    Thermal Spray Innovations
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  • 4.  RE: Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-11-2023 15:50
    Static electricity problem results in pulsation.    
    DOI: 10.31399/asm.cp.itsc1998p0779

    Technicians hate to perform powder feed check to avoid bad static induced shocks.  Hope we don't have to wait too long for antistatic feed hose in the field.

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    Bala Balachander
    Principal Engineer
    Delta Air Lines
    Atlanta GA
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  • 5.  RE: Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-11-2023 18:00
    Edited by Rogerio Lima 01-11-2023 18:04
    Thanks Bob and Nick for the suggestions... and Bala for the great recommended reference from the ITSC 1998 proceedings!

    As I stated in the previous post... there are hidden gems of information in the series of ITSC proceedings. The ITSC 1998 paper "Huang et al. The Influence of Several Powder Feed Parameters on Feed Precision and Continuity" https://doi.org/10.31399/asm.cp.itsc1998p0779
    shows that static electricity also causes power pulsation. I have been wondering if one of the causes of power pulsation could be related to the formation of static electricity effects in the powder hoses. That paper shows it does. Very interesting!

    Cheers!

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    Rogerio Lima, PhD
    Senior Research Officer
    National Research Council of Canada
    President of Thermal Spray Society (TSS)

    e-mail: rogerio.lima@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
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  • 6.  RE: Static electricity in powder feed hose

    Posted 01-11-2023 18:07
    The correct link regarding the paper just mentioned is https://doi.org/10.31399/asm.cp.itsc1998p0779

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    Rogerio Lima, PhD
    Senior Research Officer
    National Research Council of Canada
    President of Thermal Spray Society (TSS)

    e-mail: rogerio.lima@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca
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