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  • 1.  How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-07-2023 12:56

    There is a question that I often hear about in my surroundings (as a young engineer myself); “What should aerospace companies do to attract and retain young talents within an industry that may require growth over many years?

    Sadly (but also fortunately), working at an aerospace company can be tremendously interesting for young engineers but also daunting over how slow things can go. As for myself, I’ve experienced that my professional growth within aerospace has been slow and steady, but it is heading in the right direction! But the question comes back; will the grass be greener on the other side?

    Best case scenario is to feel that you hit the jackpot by working within this industry, but what actions should be made in order to achieve this?



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    Niklas Johansson
    Engineer - Materials and Processes
    GKN Aerospace Sweden AB
    Trollhättan
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  • 2.  RE: How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-08-2023 10:53

    You may not have to do anything. By posting this question, your employer now knows you are unhappy with your career progression. They may respond.



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    Aaron Tanzer
    Principal Research Engineer
    University of Dayton Research Institute
    Beavercreek OH
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  • 3.  RE: How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-13-2023 20:19

    Aaron, Niklas,

    One's employer should always assume that employees want to advance.  And you should always bring that up during the regular reviews that you should be receiving. 

    Only an inferior management takes it as a threat that their employee may not want to remain 'loyal at all costs'.  Most employees worth keeping are interested in advancement in responsibility and salary and such will want to keep their eyes open for other opportunities, either in-house or elsewhere.  An employer has to keep their eyes open as to what the outside world is offering and make sure that they offer a competitive package on an ongoing basis, be it enrichment, education, salary, flexibility, a technical advancement track, or whatever.  The alternative is the costs of searching out, acquiring, and training a new employee and the interruption in work associated with all of those.

    Regarding other recent comments in the Discussion area, while companies should be open to what a totally new, inexperienced employee can bring, many don't want to take on the burden of training and only look for several years' worth of experience minimum.  If a prospect has good internship/summer/outside work experience or perhaps comes from a school with a renowned hands-on, project oriented approach, this may be enough to top the first hurdle, especially if experience is hard to find for the needs that one has.



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  • 4.  RE: How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-08-2023 12:16

    Great question and it's also great that you are interested in your career. I worked 27 years in materials at an aerospace company and moved through the ranks to the level of technical fellow.  My advice is to: do excellent work, learn to write and speak well, volunteer for leadership programs and participate in professional organizations like ASM. Also, if possible, obtain an advanced degree.  The latter were key in my advancement. Good luck!



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    James Cotton
    Technical Fellow, Retired
    N/a,Consultant
    Issaquah WA
    (425) 223-8060
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  • 5.  RE: How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-13-2023 17:32
    It's OK to ask and share your concern. Also your that you are happy but wonder what's on the other side.

    Let me tell you my story, what I liked doing at 5yrs old was different than at 10yrs old, 15 yrs old and so forth and so on.

    As Cotton says, work hard, have fun, give back, and enjoy the ride.

    If the ride at some point is not as interesting, move on when you feel is right and make the best out of it. But If you are happy and you know it, clap your hands! 😎

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    Jean-Paul Vega
    Materials Engineer
    Siemens Energy
    Orlando FL
    (407) 399-3802
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  • 6.  RE: How should aerospace companies attract and retain talent?

    Posted 07-19-2023 09:28

    I would concur with what everyone else has said, which is that in general, employees largely want the same predictable things like growth opportunities, competitive salary, engaging work, a workplace culture that isn't too stressful, etc. I think that, at this level of analysis, the industry will not be as big a driver as simple company-to-company variation. Within any given industry, aerospace included, there will be a broad spectrum of offerings by the various employers across these metrics. For example, at the aerospace forger where I worked previously, a substantial portion of our office staff, I'd say 50% or more, had previously worked at a competitor (who shall remain unnamed but everyone has heard of them and their reputation precedes them) and they left because that company's culture was a known meat grinder and it just wasn't worth the extra money to them. If you're looking to stay in aerospace but leave your current company, I would recommend talking to as many people in your network as you can who work at different aerospace companies and ask them what they like and dislike about their respective employers so you can see which one aligns best with what's important to you, and then apply there. I would think about this vertically as well as horizontally by the way - the blue chip companies like Boeing, GKN, Lockheed Martin, etc. are always going to be more bureaucratic and slow moving just on account of their size, organizational inertia, the liability for them associated with changing proven systems, etc. They may have specific R&D divisions within the company whose job is to be innovative but largely, this is the nature of the beast when you're high up the food chain. If you wanted something more fast-moving, you could work for a subtier supplier who makes a particular component or offers a particular technical service (castings, electroplated coatings, NDE, etc.) and you'll have more leeway to optimize processes so long as they still deliver an end product that is compliant with the OEM or end user's specification. The same goes even more so for startup companies, since their rulebook basically isn't written yet. 

    Going back to the industry level of analysis, it's true that some industries are going to be more conservative than others, and aerospace is one of them. Anything having to do with nuclear technology and military work is going to be similarly bureaucratic. Subsea oil & gas exploration is also up there. Basically anything where the impact of failure is extremely high and difficult to fix, and the specs were written decades ago and no one still employed at the company has tribal knowledge of why they were written the way they were so they ossify into gospel. If this is fundamentally not your cup of tea, you might be happier working in automotive, consumer products, petrochemical, primary steelmaking, mining, etc. - something where there's economic pressure to constantly evolve or become more efficient to remain competitive. 



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    Metallurgical Engineer
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    Houston TX
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