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  • 1.  Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-23-2023 11:20

    Oxidation was detected by EDS on the cross-section of a surface crack in cast iron. I am trying to determine if the crack occurred during casting (oxide formed at high temperature), or after casting (the resulting oxidation in the crack is from aqueous corrosion). No additional thermal exposure occurred following the casting process. The oxide appears dark. There is no evidence of red rust within the crack.



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  • 2.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-24-2023 09:46

    Hello Brian,

    First of all you will have to determine if the crack you are seeing is a result of high stresses or casting problems such as misruns or merging fronts. If the "crack" occurred as a result of casting related issues, you should see a difference in microstructure near the crack as compared to the region away from the crack due to the fact that area near the crack froze first. On the other hand if the crack formed during the cooling process as a result of high stresses, you should see uniform microstructure in the cracked region.

    That said, if the oxidation product formed when the material was molten, it is typically wustite, FeO. If the product formed during the cooling process after the casting was solid, it is likely to be wustite or magnetite, Fe3O4, lower temperatures favoring magnetite. X-ray radiography of the cracked region may give you an indication if the crack formed before or after solidification. The product formed during the corrosion process is haematite, Fe2O3.xH2O. Both wustite and magnetite are black while haematite is rust colored. You may distinguish between these products using x-ray diffraction if you are able to scrap the oxidation product and subject it to the x-ray diffraction. If that is not possible, you may have to use techniques that are more complicated and expensive.



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  • 3.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-25-2023 08:33

    Thanks for the suggestions.



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  • 4.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-24-2023 10:33

    Brian:

    Do you have an opportunity to break open that crack or a similar crack to directly examine the crack surface? The color and tenacity of the oxide layer as observed directly on the surface could be good clues to determine if it is a high-temperature, adherent oxide layer or a lower-temperature oxide from corrosion. Consideration of how thick and dense the oxide layer is as observed in the cross-section is worthwhile. The crack morphology (intergranular, transgranular, mixed) would also give you some clues as to the crack formation conditions, and therefore the most likely oxide formation conditions. In some cases, you may even find clues as to characteristic fracture features by direct examination (SEM/EDS) of the oxide-covered fracture surface.

    As you're aware, cast iron will oxidize quite readily, so consideration of the service history will likely be just as important to determining the likely source of the oxidation as will the physical features of the oxide layer itself. I would second Ratnesh's comment on looking at the material microstructure near the crack. X-ray diffraction (particular examination by microXRD so you don't have to collect as much oxide product as you would for a conventional bulk XRD) could be worth considering as well.



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  • 5.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?
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    Posted 10-24-2023 13:53
    Hi Brian!
    I'd expect high temperature oxide to be considerably enriched in active elements -  - probably silicon in cast iron - , while the (metallic) composition of the corrosion product would be close to the alloy composition.

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  • 6.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-25-2023 08:37
    Edited by Brian DeForce 10-25-2023 08:40

    Thanks for all of the suggestions.

    Dr Grubb! Your exquisitely simple answer is spot on (no surprise there). EDS map of the oxide showed significant Si enrichment. Thank you.



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  • 7.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-25-2023 10:14

    Can you explain a little more why the high temperature oxide would be more enriched in active elements than a low temperature oxide?



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  • 8.  RE: Oxide source – high temperature or aqueous corrosion?

    Posted 10-25-2023 12:29
    Because the reaction (such as Si + 2FeO --> SiO2 + 2Fe) can proceed at high temperature, but not at ambient temperature.

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