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  • 1.  Regarding Erosive Particles

    Posted 11-18-2022 13:42
    Hello Everyone,

    Can you please guide me on what type of erosive particles are found in the gas turbine engine? I guess it might be the silica particles (Please correct me if I am wrong). Also, I am wondering what would be the range of particle sizes of the erodent. I would appreciate your help. 


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    RB Nair




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    Rakesh Bhaskaran Nair
    Postdoctoral Fellow
    Concordia University
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  • 2.  RE: Regarding Erosive Particles

    Posted 11-19-2022 11:49
    RB Nair -

    Search for "cmas turbine".

    - Jim





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  • 3.  RE: Regarding Erosive Particles

    Posted 11-21-2022 11:07
    Hi Rakesh,

    As Jim as stated in his reply... you need to search for "CMAS turbine". It is a good start.

    Commercial and military turbine engines are typically exposed to foreign objects, such as dust, volcanic ash, sand storms, hail stones, sleet pellets, runway sand/gravel/debris and even birds.

    More specifically, the airborne particles that cause erosion in gas turbines are highly based on a calcium-magnesium-alumino-silicates (CMAS) mineral compositions; which basically constitute over 90% of the Earth's crust. These airborne particles are created by dust storms, volcanoes and fly ash.

    Regarding the particle sizes, as an example, the Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) 03 Test Dust exhibits an overall particle size range from ~1 micron up to ~100 microns. The AFRL 03 Test Dust (blend of different minerals) was designed to generate erosion and form CMAS-like deposits in hot sections during full-scale rotating engine tests, i.e., real engine test. I would hypothesize these micron-sized ones represent the airborne dust (CMAS-precursor-based) particles.

    On the other hand, runway sand/gravel particles, hail stones, sleet pellets and runway debris (and of course birds) can be larger than that, even reaching diameters of few millimeters or more.

    I hope it helps!

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    Rogerio Lima, PhD
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  • 4.  RE: Regarding Erosive Particles

    Posted 11-24-2022 19:44
    Hi Rogerio,

    Thank you for the suggestion. I will look into the CMAS exposure.

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    Rakesh Bhaskaran Nair
    Postdoctoral Fellow
    Concordia University
    (780) 604-4431
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